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Vaportrail

« on: March 13, 2006, 08:44:09 AM »

Thanks to my uncle, I was able to recieve a copy of this program so that I may finally set up a website to showcase my film projects and other things.
However, when going through online tutorials and even "Dreamweaver for Dummies", I still find myself stumped on how to use this program.

Does anyone have any tips/suggestions for how I should go about setting up my site, or learning how to?

Thanks,
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2006, 08:57:50 AM »

Ohh -- Good thread.


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Funk, E

« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2006, 09:05:49 AM »

I've actually got a complete copy of a slightly older version of Dreamweaver here that I picked up at a garage sale, and I've never learned how to use it.  This is a good thread.
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Vaportrail

« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2006, 09:12:55 AM »

Do you think I should bring this up at TFn? It didn't really seem fanfilm related except for some of the stuff that might go on my site.
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2006, 09:44:37 AM »

I've never bothered. I had access to it from the Miami Video Services, but never cared for it. I prefer good ole Photoshop/ImageReady and Notepad Smiley Notepad is your friend, learn HTML, you won't regret it.

Even using dreamweaver sometimes u just gotta get down and dirty in the code...just the way it is. Even the best WYSIWIG-using webmaster knows HTML when he/she needs it.

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So yea, I avoid the program and just don't bother.
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djr33

« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2006, 11:08:23 AM »

I really like using dreamweaver to edit html.

DW is a great way to start doing web design.... though its design is ugly (As is all macromedia stuff... flash is the worst... glad that adobe bought them...).

After you get more into it, you should start getting into the html side of things so that you can fix the inevitable errors that you'll get for whatever reasons.... any wysiwyg (what-you-see-is-what-you-get) editor will have odd errors that are most easily fixed in the code.

Ok... to start:
1. Go to a website or 5 and look at the source code. It'll be insanely confusing. Just read it.... it'll start making sense. In short, the tags are just like [ b][/ b] tags and such. There's an opening tag <TAG> and a closing tag </TAG>. Some exist by themselves, without a closing tag. The stuff between the tags is what's affected, like bolded (boldened?) text.
2. Now you know WHAT DW is doing for you, so you can effectively use it. First, turn on the view code option so that you can watch what code is generated  by using the app. It's one of the switches at the top of the screen... one is code, another layout and another a mix. Use the mix.
3. There ya go. The properties thing below the editing window will change stuff.... make text bold, make tables bigger.... whatever. The insert menu will help you out a bunch too. Images, etc are in there.
4. For general text, just type. Note that enter will make a new paragraph (new formatting), but shift+enter will do a <br> tag instead making a line break, keeping the formatting and only doing one line, not two.
5. Check the page properties window. Its in view or some such. It has colors and whatnot. Change background, text etc. Note: you might want to leave the links as blue as a standard... any change is a risk of confusing the viewer... but that doesn't mean don't do it... just think first.

Now... you get into design junk. Just practice.

Again, importantly, LOOK AT SITES and see how they work. Heck, cut and paste some source code and soon you'll be able to write it. Just see how it works. And look at what DW generates as you work.

A big thing about web design is tables. They keep everything organized. Look at this page... it has lots of embedded tables. They hold the page together. You can use widths of percents of the window or absolute pixels... both have advantages... percents are better for looking good at all resolutions, but absolutes are better for keeping everything standard.
Then just nest/embed tables.... put one inside the other, and you'll get some good formatting.

Remember to title your pages too, its a little text box above the editing window.


I'm pretty good with DW, and in a web design class... so...  as if you've got more questions.

Remember, you need to decide something:
1. You are just making a site with the purpose of getting it done. Don't bother with html. (I don't recommend this unless you really don't care about how your site looks/works.)
2. You want a GOOD site. In this case, this is very important advice:
Use DW, but only as a tool to help you create and learn html. Don't let it take over. Always keep an eye on your code... even if you don't get it, you will soon enough.
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2006, 12:08:37 PM »

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1. You are just making a site with the purpose of getting it done. Don't bother with html. (I don't recommend this unless you really don't care about how your site looks/works.)
I disagree heartily, sir.
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2006, 12:51:42 PM »

Fig, I think people should learn html.
However, it's a worthless skill is all they care about is having a link to their film and a chunk of text. It'll be ugly... but functional. It depends on what they need.
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2006, 02:16:08 PM »

You can know next to nothing about HTML and make good looking sites, it's design that fuels the aesthetic - not the code. All you need is an idea, and enough code knowledge to make it work.

All of the sites I've designed have been very simple adventures in HTML, yet have had their own style that works well. The front page of theBRB is a noteworthy example.
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2006, 04:11:11 PM »

I made my site with nothing but HTML. Nothing is Flash except the intro.
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djr33

« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2006, 06:05:37 PM »

Ah,  fig, I thought you were saying the opposite. In that case... then... yeah. But it is kinda worthelss for someone who doesn't care. IE yodaman. He's asked questions about design a few times and made it clear he doesn't want to learn... and he shouldn't have to... he just wants to make it have links for his films. Heh.
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Vaportrail

« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2006, 03:20:08 PM »

Generally, that will be the bulk of my website. lol
I'll be linking footage as I put it online. It's Vaportrail"films".com.. so yeah.

That's kind of required.
I'm still figuring out the rest of what I want to do for it, but I can't really put my imagination to work until I get this program figured out.

The tutorials I googled were unhelpful. My "Dreamweaver for Dummies" book is alright.. but it's a whole book so it will take me a while to get though it.
Even then, I'm not sure how helpful it'll be. Hopefully a lot.
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2006, 05:26:27 PM »

A great website to keep in your bookmarks is w3schools.com. It has g tutorials on XHTML, HTML, XML, CSS, PRL, RSS, dotnet, server/client scripting, etc. it only took me about 2 hours to get through the XHTML and CSS tutorials, which is everything that you need to know to design a website from scratch.

Just a resource that I thought y'all would be interested in....

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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2006, 08:43:23 AM »

Another great resource is Pixel 2 Life. They have nearly 16,000 tutorials, most of which are dedicated to web design. I recommend checking out the photoshop tutorials for designing skins, and then the dreamweaver tutorials for the rest. I've found it all extremely helpful.
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